So, you want to be a forum owner? Check out this item.

[retroleds]

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... 26_fvi%3D1

BIN incentive of 14k solid gold P2(14k gold-filled band, 20 links), NOS module, new glass.

[Led-Time]

Sorry to hear your selling up Ed, its been good having you at the helm I'am sure everyone here will be sad to see you let go of the leash.

$12000 buy it now, I don’t fancy paying your completions fees…

[retroleds]

It is awesome advertising for the forum, for less than I'd pay for a terribly beat up pos watch.

And truly, I could attend to what I really like, without any of the hassle. OR I may be here for years to come. God only knows. Maybe I should include a really sweet watch to make it a "lot". Yeah, that would be the kicker for someone on the BIN.

Sometimes the easiest way to stop a freight train is to buy the track.

[Fitron]

Hey it's only insured $100 for postage! What gives!

[LEDluvr]

First the Global Financial Crisis - now this!
What else can go wrong this year.... ???

The DWF won't be the same without you Ed.

[retroleds]

I seriously doubt anyone will buy it, but it is an interesting social experiment, no? I dropped the starting price to see who might be tempted. At the time I bought it only one other person showed serious interest here. Websites are like any other collecting behaviour - the finances are generally hard to justify to anyone but yourself. I [admittedly] bought dwf.nu to help bootstrap myself into the repair and sales area, since I had committed myself to the idea that it was my full time occupation - nothing dishonest about that but I would be quite content with less visibility now. Like Watchismo or Peter Wenzig - a sales site and doing a little repair on a limited basis. And maybe getting back to working on thedigitalwatch.com to assist others and provide an alternative to the money based hierarchy and hen-pecking of the really ardent collectors. I'd guess from talking with customers that 60-70 percent of those who own a digital watch want nothing to do with collecter interest groups for those very reasons.

[Diginut]

I seriously doubt anyone will buy it, but it is an interesting social experiment, no? I dropped the starting price to see who might be tempted. At the time I bought it only one other person showed serious interest here. Websites are like any other collecting behaviour - the finances are generally hard to justify to anyone but yourself. I [admittedly] bought dwf.nu to help bootstrap myself into the repair and sales area, since I had committed myself to the idea that it was my full time occupation - nothing dishonest about that but I would be quite content with less visibility now.

I'm intrigued as to why you appear to want to sell up. Initial thoughts are that it could be a good experiment in directing traffic to the site. But if you really do get a bid I'm asking myself 'what exactly is being sold' ?

I can understand that you made an investment in Guy Balls LED photolibrary and then dwf.nu, and now want a return of some sort. Plus there must be days when the whole site must seem like a headache when a couple of the minority factions start squabbling

But the ebay advert doesn’t make it clear what's for sale bearing in mind how all your various interlinked websites are held together.

As an investment to generate cash flow from advertising there's not much to speak off, although it must attract a marginal amount of interest from people looking for repairs and that may well have served its purpose nicely.

If it was me buying it I can see some nominal value on the ledwatches photolibrary collection.

Whereas for other buyers, the forum posts may have some value although this is built up by the thousands of people who have contributed there own information and pictures etc. I personally rarely look back through the older posts. And also, I suspect any buyer wanting all the postings and to try and import them into a more modern database ... would find it a real chore.


However, something is bugging me. If someone were to buy, say, the photolibrary, then the copyright in each photo rests with the original person who took it, and in many cases you quote the email address or name and explicitly make a copyright statement that pics are for personal use, and cannot be sold on without the copyright holders permission…

Also, looking through your sites Terms & Conditions, you state many things to do with privacy and of the Personally Identifiable Information lodged about each registered user, and that you will not disclose it to a third party without prior consent from each user.

Which raises a major question mark over what you intend to sell on ? I for one wouldn’t want to see any Tom Dick Harry or Hassan buying my private information via ebay. After all, some bored lonely ebayer sitting in a cave in Afghanistan might just click "BuyItNow" one night, and all the LED watch collectors info would be sold to some fairly unsavoury mountain dweller (s) for all sorts of potentially malicious purposes. Under the Ts & Cs does this mean you really need to have a member vote for all to respond to a yes/no about distributing their personal information which is supposed to be protected ?

JMTCW

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Also, just noticed you’ve reduced the price a bit, and thrown in a 14k P2 for good measure, but if you want to bung in the 'other' watch you PM'ed me about, I might warm to the idea of the picture library - assuming the © issue is resolvable.

[retroleds]

Archer:
My sites are really not interlinked - they are linked, but no more so than any other two points on the internet. Each site is a frestanding entity, but I do have the links to them included in some of the menus. Very easy to remove the linkage; although, why would anyone mind the extra traffic?

The database doesn't really include any "personal" information(only the stuff that shows in your profile ANYWAY,except of course your password), and at such time ownership would be transfered the new owner would not be a third party. The database is a MySql database, so it is actually pretty "modern". The "Al Quida" type threat is like worrying that the site administrator at the other dwf is reading people's private messages and/or hacking people's accounts. Now, considering the very different reputations of myself and say, Phil and Gary (both whom are very involved in that site), where should a person be more worried? I have a reputation for being an asshole, but an honest asshole - not a terrible cross to bear. Seems my nemeses would want to get control of this forum to bury all the dirty tales of terror. Just buy me out! Not too likely an "Al Quida" guy is going to paypal me a few grand just to get email addresses on some vintage watch collectors.

The Photos. None of the pictures indicate who the photographer was - only who sent it to Guy. I have only added photos I have personally taken since my ownership of ledwatches.net, so I consider the ownership of any photographs on that site to be soly with my corporation. And they have been in the public domain for years. Ledwatches.net actually has spun off a fair amount in advertising revenue. I have been letting all ads run gratis for the last 6 months or so. Once I had recouped my initial monetary investment I really didn't care that much - the money won't change my life. I waste some at my own pleasure like every one else.

What is for sale? - the domain name, the database of all postings, and all files that currently run all aspects of the forum.

The other watch - that is a laughable suggestion my good man. A few people say someone has one of those, but not a single picture of same, not a single name of who has one. #3140 -an 18k Date Command, with a solid 18k band,back,ring,clasp. It appears to be rarer than a P1 or a gold Pulse, so that won't leave my hands without someone getting into the mid $teens - USD. Just for the watch. I realize it doesn't have the same history as a P1 or a Pulse, but I feel it makes up for that on absolute rarity and the relative ease of obtaining working electronics for it if one should need them, something neither of the forgoing have going for them. A dead Pulse is a dead Pulse and a dead P1 is a dead P1. The 3140 came from one of the original Pulsar engineers - one photograph, a brief phone conversation and I mailed the check.

The solid gold P2 I offer as a BIN incentive is worth roughly $3k, IMO, so I am basically giving someone who wants the forum AND has been trying to find a nice solid gold P2 a chance to get it all in one shot.

If you're interested, both the forum and www.ledwatches.net can be had for $12k USD - but no gold watch. You don't need it anyway...you have several in the safe,right? I'm thinking we can't very well encourage new collectors if those holy grail pieces aren't spread about a little. I'm not a collector - just a guy who buys,fixes and sells. Terribly pedestrian.

[retroleds]

Well, looks like I continue this tour of duty. Look for changes!

[LEDluvr]

Another tour of duty! Aye Aye Captain!

[Fitron]

Warp Factor Eight....

[LEDluvr]

Steady as she goes Mr. Sulu....