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18k Pulsar P3 New York collection watch

Post21 Jun 2016, 01:07

I noticed this lovely 18k P3 (#191901519011) on e-bay for sale. I wonder if Bruce can chime in and let us know, since he keeps track of all his serial numbers if this is one of the watches from his original collection he brought back. Wonder if he plans on bringing his missing watch back home to the collection. :-D
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Re: 18k Pulsar P3 New York collection watch

Post21 Jun 2016, 14:21

Just searched that item number on eBay and no result?
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Re: 18k Pulsar P3 New York collection watch

Post21 Jun 2016, 15:53

Recheck number, that is what it shows. #191901519011
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Post21 Jun 2016, 16:10

I've tried .co.uk & .com and both comes back with no result :scratch:
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Post22 Jun 2016, 03:07

Strange that link works fine but searching the item # comes up with 0 result every time.
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Post22 Jun 2016, 07:36

For some reason I get no results if I search for the item under .co.uk but it comes up on .com
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Post22 Jun 2016, 15:38

I know when listing items on .co.uk, there is an extra charge if you want the item displayed on .com. Prob works the other way too, so either the seller didnt want to pay or he aint prepared to ship to europe
That watch reminded me of the one i stumbled across a few weeks back. I trawl quite a lot of auctions, i have not and am not - remotely interested in Pulsars, wouldnt know if i'm looking at a rare one or not. When i come across them (which is very often, like shit in a field they are) , i usually forward them on to a collector we all know but whom shall remain nameless. In this case , he registered to bid then forgot to live bid on the auction day. :bang: :bang: As mentioned, i know nothing about the values of Pulsars but at 500 euros hammer price , i'm guessing this 18k version was a bargain lol

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Post22 Jun 2016, 18:53

I don't know how long it's been since that auction as you didn't say, but I'm guessing he is still crying now!
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Post22 Jun 2016, 23:19

auction was june 3rd
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Post23 Jun 2016, 00:44

Yep probably still crying then, or :~#
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Re: 18k Pulsar P3 New York collection watch

Post15 Dec 2016, 13:54

Is this watch for sale again?? When I click the link I am redirected to an auction for an 18K P3 with a starting Price of 7500USD.
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Re: 18k Pulsar P3 New York collection watch

Post16 Dec 2016, 04:20

A lot to comment on, here...

Yes, this is one of the the New York watches. There were 20 in total, which came in three lots of 15, 4, and 1; this watch was part of the original purchase (the others showed up later as the estate was more completely inventoried). Judging from its' location, this is likely the one I sold to Mike Barbaro in early 2005 (and which, when sold, DID have its' original setting magnet with it; incredible that this could have been lost). 14 of the 20 remain in my collection, including a unique consecutively-numbered pair. All of them fall into just two serial number blocks, 295 and 315. The condition you see here is typical of all the New York material...unworn, virtually flawless...true (much as I hate the term) new-old-stock. This auction ended July 11; it has not been re-listed.

The 18K Ladies watch is certainly from another source (none of the NY watches remained in their boxes..a shame, as they have never surfaced, and there would have been nearly 60 of them). Given the rarity of the special Gold Boxes, I would say this example went for about "melt" value, a dangerous circumstance, unless it went into the hands of a dedicated collector. Only one other 18K Ladies model has appeared (an Oval, on eBay, a few years ago). There were 21 pieces in the NY group, mostly in two serial number blocks (195 and 709); a single example in the 251 block is among the 13 remaining in the collection.

The solid-gold, Tiffany-branded, originally-boxed P3 currently on eBay is 14K, not 18K. The serial number (295308) is remarkably close to the 18K run...unfortunately, there is no way to pin down exactly where the 18K run stops (highest number I know of is 295063), and the 14K run picks up (unless, of course, a consecutively-numbered pair shows up, one of each carat fineness). It does, however, share a couple common features with the 18K watches...the Lynx stamp on the case back (a Swiss inspection hallmark, clearly visible in the sixth pic), and a similar, much smaller (1x2mm) punchmark on the upper right case lug (best seen in the fourth pic, as is the unusual structure of the bracelet). The box is correct and original (and, like the watch itself, quite rare). This watch also sports the rare, early, folded-tab, hollow-link bracelet (remarkably, this bracelet also occurs on the 7725 Pulse-Time; not sure how or why such an early bracelet ended up on such a late watch, but it did).
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Re: 18k Pulsar P3 New York collection watch

Post16 Dec 2016, 11:47

Bruce,
thanks for all the Information here. It seems that not many people are able or willing to afford or maybe don´t like solid Gold watches. The only reason why early bracelets come with a late watch is that there was a significant overstock. There are no 18K P2s, right? Because, that´s my favourite Pulsar... after the P1 of course :grin1:
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Re: 18k Pulsar P3 New York collection watch

Post16 Dec 2016, 13:46

18K P2s are certainly not impossible (or 18K Classics, for that matter). There may be one or two out there that have simply not come to the attention of collectors...buried in a safe-deposit box or in a private collection whose owner has no interest in sharing the information (way too much of that, in this hobby). I was tentatively offered an 18K P2 (along with an impressive list of other solid gold models) about 2 1/2 years ago, but there was no follow-up, and never any pictures, so I am forced to write the incident off as an attempted scam (considering the total value involved, nothing short of a physical inspection of the material would have convinced me to part with any money). To the best of my knowledge, until the New York group surfaced, no 18K Executives were in any collection (there were 14, 10 on leather straps, 4 on full, 18K bracelets; there were consecutively-numbered examples of both styles). No additional examples have come to light in the intervening 12 1/2 years. Like the unique 14K P1 (which was denounced as an impossibility by the then-leading "expert"), things are hidden until they are found, and occasionally, we have to write a new page in the history books.

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