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So much for "NOS" - Hamilton QED Case, Band

Post07 Feb 2013, 00:14

Purchased a Hamilton QED Case / Band advertised as NOS (new old stock) from ebay.

Arrived today, all excited unpacked it - guess what? It's missing a link and a spring pin. So much for NOS !@@!

I would rather keep it if I can get the missing link :(
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Re: So much for "NOS" - Hamilton QED Case, Band

Post07 Feb 2013, 09:55

I may have to devote the declining years of my life to forever stamping out the use of the term "NOS" as a description of condition. It is really just a description of the history of the watch...purchased from the factory for retail resale, never sold, and put into stock storage. There is NO implicit connection with the actual physical condition of the item (I have seen NOS watches that, having been poorly stored, were in AWFUL cosmetic condition!). So, please, everybody, stop using this term! If you want to use a term that implicitly implies the watch is in like-new condition, use "mint". That is totally unambiguous, and legitimate; the other term is not.
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Re: So much for "NOS" - Hamilton QED Case, Band

Post07 Feb 2013, 17:45

Thanks -

Also I wish people would be up front and state any obvious issues, like short band, etc...

The other problem is the infamous "Gold Plated" description on items. !@@!

Any item I have is stamped gold plated on the watch case and /or band. This includes my pens as well.

Of course now I ask the seller to show me a picture of the stamp, "oh it's not marked" - then it's Gold "Tone" not Gold "Plated"
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Re: So much for "NOS" - Hamilton QED Case, Band

Post07 Feb 2013, 23:00

Well it just keeps getting better - just to show what a novice I am -

I purchased this because the front of the case has three buttons (the hamilton alarm), however on studying the back cover more and other pictures of other hamilton alarm watches it appears this watch has the wrong cover !!

It seems all hamilton led alarm cases have a back cover with "holes" all the way around and a slightly raised back cover.

The cover on this watch is solid one piece - like a traditional non-alarm QED.

So now I'm down one missing link, a missing spring pin, and now the wrong cover :~#
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Re: So much for "NOS" - Hamilton QED Case, Band

Post08 Feb 2013, 00:16

Don't panic......I have not seen the case but I strongly suspect that it is the chrono version that you have, same button lay out but obviously a different case back....without holes, meaning the case back is going to be original to the watch that you have.

Is the second photo on the top row the same as your case... http://www.digitalwatches.de/index.htm? ... chiv_H.htm
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Re: So much for "NOS" - Hamilton QED Case, Band

Post08 Feb 2013, 00:49

Yes, this happens to everybody sooner or later (usually sooner).

If it makes you feel any better, I just bought a "mint condition like new" GF P2 that arrived with only 16 links (out of 22). That puts the bracelet at about 6" in length. It's even too small for my wife's dainty wrists. The seller was claiming that it was complete and fit him until he took it to the jeweler's - now he's stopped responding to my emails entirely. Sigh.

Sometimes it's enough to make you lose your faith in humanity.

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Re: So much for "NOS" - Hamilton QED Case, Band

Post08 Feb 2013, 07:10

abem wrote:Yes, this happens to everybody sooner or later (usually sooner).

If it makes you feel any better, I just bought a "mint condition like new" GF P2 that arrived with only 16 links (out of 22). That puts the bracelet at about 6" in length. It's even too small for my wife's dainty wrists. The seller was claiming that it was complete and fit him until he took it to the jeweler's - now he's stopped responding to my emails entirely. Sigh.

Sometimes it's enough to make you lose your faith in humanity.

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Wow,

I have yet to have this happen to me in the way that you described it, but I have had really shaft y things happen to me in eBay bids/sales. Actually, I was bidding on a fairly nicked up M159-5059 and I paid 90USD for it, but it turned out to have a polarizer problem. The seller claimed that "The watch works" that is all! Yes, it works, but he also knew it was a problem with the polarizer. You could not tell this in the pics because of the contrast level of the pics, and the way the watch ws positioned in the pictures. Totally false, that he "should" have stated the watch's defect.

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Re: So much for "NOS" - Hamilton QED Case, Band

Post08 Feb 2013, 08:02

Hi,

Thanks for letting me vent :Prost:

Here's the actual watch / case / band purchased. Let me know if I'm crazy. Is that the right case back for this style of hamilton?

I thought the button layout was for the alarm version of the hamilton and would require a "vented /w holes" case back?

You can see the missing pin and link in the pictures. It doesn't even fit all the way around my standard watch pillow M:)W:)M

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Re: So much for "NOS" - Hamilton QED Case, Band

Post08 Feb 2013, 23:08

A sad story.
Yes, NOS doesn't always mean that the watch is in good condition, unfortunately.
You can buy this : http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Watch-Bracele ... 41696973d4
(Be sure to measure the band, so you will buy the right clasp extender)
Or search for the original links. ;-)
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Re: So much for "NOS" - Hamilton QED Case, Band

Post08 Feb 2013, 23:22

Another one, this extends more but it's stainless steel unfortunately and not goldtone.
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Re: So much for "NOS" - Hamilton QED Case, Band

Post09 Feb 2013, 03:47

What do you guys think - should I keep it or return it?

Is this the correct back on the case?

Is this the alarm version or the dual time version of the hamilton?

I thought the alarm version would have a different case back?
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Re: So much for "NOS" - Hamilton QED Case, Band

Post09 Feb 2013, 04:16

I've reached the point where I don't even read the description, unless I see something in the pictures (which are still, and always have been, the best information source, when determining condition) that doesn't look quite right. Then, I'll see if the description mentions the specific detail I'm concerned about. If it does, fine. If it doesn't, I ask the seller a question. If the reply makes sense, well and good. If it doesn't, or there is no reply, I pass. The eBay landscape is dotted with pitfalls and land mines...so. watch your step...
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Re: So much for "NOS" - Hamilton QED Case, Band

Post09 Feb 2013, 12:56

My personal opinion, if all functions work i would keep it.
It's a nice model imho.
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Re: So much for "NOS" - Hamilton QED Case, Band

Post09 Feb 2013, 23:44

Thanks -

It's just the case and band - no module inside.

I purchased because of the condition of the lens, case, band - probably paid more then what I wanted to, however it has the three buttons on it vs the two.

Hopefully I can find a module one day :mrgreen:
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Re: So much for "NOS" - Hamilton QED Case, Band

Post11 Feb 2013, 20:27

Sorry, i didn't notice that it was only a case and band.
I hope you will find a module soon ;-)
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Re: So much for "NOS" - Hamilton QED Case, Band

Post21 Feb 2013, 20:32

Hamilton didn't make a dual time - it's the chrono case. Chrono has different threads and uses a ring to hold the back down so the back aren't inter-changeable. You bigger problem is the link - that model has links and clasp that are 2 mm wider than all their others(same links were apparently used on a few oddball S.S. TC 1s(Omega).

I just checked - if you want to keep it and find a movement, I have your missing link and pin(common). I bought one where someone apparently fell against something hard, smashing the glass and mangling the case. BUt the band was still great. And those have a fantastic number of straight links. I won't give the link away but I won't bend you over either.
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Re: So much for "NOS" - Hamilton QED Case, Band

Post22 Feb 2013, 02:13

Lol be gentle with me I'm a new member

Yes I'm interested

I'll try sending you a private email later tonight

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Re: So much for "NOS" - Hamilton QED Case, Band

Post22 Feb 2013, 03:02

s_elias wrote:Lol be gentle with me I'm a new member
Thanks
Don't worry, I'm not into other people "member" - though I am known to bust some balls.

I was thinking $25. Same as the going rate for a Pulsar link. Virtually new condition...possibly better than your case.
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Re: So much for "NOS" - Hamilton QED Case, Band

Post22 Feb 2013, 03:34

Hi,

One last question can you confirm what the module carrier depth is for this style case?

Is it 7mm or 8mm?

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Re: So much for "NOS" - Hamilton QED Case, Band

Post22 Feb 2013, 04:22

s_elias wrote:Hi,

One last question can you confirm what the module carrier depth is for this style case?

Is it 7mm or 8mm?

Thanks
7mm. 8mm is a generic Frontier module...too deep and the diameter is a hair smaller which lead to button contact issues. Good question...you don't want another wooden nickle. Damn carrier is the hard part to source.....people have been throwing them away from years when the generics can be put in the Hamilton carrier. :bang:
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