18K Pulsar's.

[Mr Frequency 32768hz]

I found these old pictures from when i met Bruce in Florida in 2004. Some real Historical Pulsar shots so i thought i would share with fellow collectors. All these Pulsar's are 18k.

[Kasper]

damn i would love one of these shots as a background image

now i know, why it's so hard to find them...Bruce has them all

like you said...pure history!

[bucko170]

Some great photo's again Lloyd, I especially like the first one; the Pulsar army in formation!

[SASM]

Lloyd, thanks for sharing these amazing pictures! I like the photo with the four P4s from the back side most. Actually we have so many interesting postings!

[Mr Frequency 32768hz]

Lloyd, thanks for sharing these amazing pictures! I like the photo with the four P4s from the back side most. Actually we have so many interesting postings!

Its a pleasure. I think its great for all collectors to see such pictures.

[Cesar]

WOW that simply makes me

[lucamd11]

Very nice pictures thank you!

[bruce wegmann]

This is the first group of watches from the New York source, and these pictures were taken on May 8th, 2004. There are several models here that were not previously known to exist in 18K gold; the Ladies' Pulsars, and the 18K Executives. Only a few 3376s (18K P3 on leather) were in collections before this...there are 15 of them on the table; more surfaced later, bringing the total to 20...14 remain in my collection. The 18K Executive had never been seen before; it was listed as a special order item on one pricelist, but apparently no collector anywhere had one... a total of 16 eventually surfaced...I retain 10 of them. The four Executives on 18K bracelets remain, nearly nine years later, the only known examples. There were three consecutive sets of serial numbers among the P4s; I have two of those pairs...one pair was accidentally separated and in all probability will never be re-united. There was one pair among the P3s, and one pair in each of the Cushion and Oval Ladies models...I retain those. Amazingly, what you see here represents only half of what ultimately came from New York; as the estate was consolidated, and new material uncovered, another 34 watches, including the Grimas, surfaced over the next 18 months, for a total of 69 pieces; all but 5 were in 18K. Considering that the 18K watches are six to ten times rarer than the 14K ones, this was a unique group of watches, and is the reason why I may have the only collection that is top-heavy in 18K vs. 14K models (62 vs. 51). Gold was US$423/ozT. on the day I made the purchase, so this turned out to be a very good investment, even disregarding the collector value involved. I am inclined to doubt there had been more than this many 18K Pulsars in one place since Time Computer closed its' doors in 1977.

[laptop]

WOW
La crème de la crème!!!!
Thanks for blessing our eyes with such of great pictures

[jagmad]

That is one hell of an impressive collection of Pulsars
Let alone that they are all 18k ( did I read that right??)
If so
But I'm so full of differing emotions looking at them I'm a bit bit with some
and I've mentioned this before I think there should be a we're not worthy smiley, so I'll just say this..

Bruce although I'm with envy I have to say JUST OUTSTANDING

[Phasar66]

I'm so fortunate to had seen some of this watches myself, not counting his whole collection of P1. Few people had seen 8 then 9 P1 on the same table. Thanks Bruce for sharing

[abem]

Bruce,

Are the bracelets for the 18KT P4s using some kind of hollow link construction? If so, it would seem that they must be quite delicate considering that even the normal stainless hollow link ones are a bit fragile. Are they considerably heavier than a standard P4?

Thanx,

-abe.

p.s. More photos! (please)

[bruce wegmann]

The 18K bracelets are of the same general construction as the stainless steel ones. The parts for the links likely came off the same stamping machines (insides of links might even show matching tool marks)...even the same gauge metal, so the 18K bracelets are about twice as heavy as the stainless ones. Certainly, a machine capable of forming stainless steel will have no problem with solid gold. The 14K bracelets come in one other rare variation...what I call the folded-tab link bracelet. Here, the external shell and inner plate remain two separate pieces (not joined by welding or brazing), mechanically held together with two folded tabs extending from the outer shell into two tab-shaped depressions in the inner plate. I have two 3130s and a 7725 with this type bracelet (interesting that such an early-production bracelet would find its' way onto such a late-production watch); there are no springpins connecting the links, only solid pins, making this bracelet very difficult to disassemble for cleaning or repair. It seems to me to be a less sophisticated, earlier design, that was abandoned after a brief trial; pehaps one in twenty or so P3s has this type bracelet (they do exist in goldfill, but I do not remember seeing this type in stainless, but I would bet a limited number of them exist, as well). There are no known examples of solid links in goldfill or solid gold, to my knowledge.

[KARNAK]

Hi

Stunning, brethtaking collection, all appear to be in immaculate condition. I would really like to see Bruce's entire collection displayed, the man has more gold that held in FORT KNOX. I just cannot imagine how he manages to keep up with them all, battery replacement, cleaning, storing and general maintenace. How does he do it?

Like the song goes" SOME GUYS HAVE ALL THE LUCK".

Regards,
KARNAK

[Diginut]

the man has more gold that held in FORT KNOX.

.... thats probably true !

Conspiracy theorist have been saying for years that there is NO gold in fort knox. It has NOT been audited since 1962 ...

[jagmad]

the man has more gold that held in FORT KNOX.

.... thats probably true !

Conspiracy theorist have been saying for years that there is NO gold in fort knox. It has NOT been audited since 1962 ...

So they've found a way to have your cake and eat it.
Just lock it away and don't tell anyone you've eaten it.
Bet that's never been done before. HONEST
Shhhhhh... (Economics) ................

No matter how poorly you may think it's running . .

[bruce wegmann]

Well, there's probably lots of gold in Ft. Knox...it just doesn't belong to the United States any more! And there's more gold stored in the Federal Reserve vaults under Wall Street in New York than in Ft. Knox; again, most of it belongs to other countries...we're just providing a secure storage facility (reputedly, a large quantity of bullion is also held by the Bank of England). The U.S. went off the Gold Standard as a means of establishing and maintaining the value of its' currency in 1933 (and the rest of the world followed suit, of course)...worst economic move, ever! You have to remember that the VALUE of gold never changes (no matter what form it is in...coins, bars, jewelry...all the same); that is why it is called a "standard of value". What changes is the PRICE...all that is, is a measure of the value of the currency that is buying it. Gold was US$423/ozT the day I bought all the watches, now gold is US$1608/ozT. so it takes 3.801 times as many dollars to buy the same weight of gold; that tells me the dollar has lost 73.7% of its' value in less than nine years...
Anyway, the great majority of the watches were 18K simply because in Europe, and especially in the Middle East, 18K is the minimum standard for gold jewelry (you'll find bracelets and necklaces in 22K or even 24K gold, but for watch cases, 18K is as high as it can go without becoming too soft to be durable). If you want a noble-metal watch case, the best choice is platinum; it has almost the same mechanical properties as mild steel...18K gold is more like brass (one of the 18K P3s actually had a dent in the case, probably from being dropped on a hardwood floor...there were no scratches, just a dent; fortunately, I was able to push the metal out from the inside, rather like taking a dent out of a car door, then re-contour and re-brush the case, leaving no trace of the damage).
Of course, every one of the Pulsars was in one of the rare, two-tone suede-leather Gold Boxes; they were removed from them to save space in the vault. It is a source of endless disappointment to me that the boxes have not been found .

[Led-Time]

WOW... ...Lloyd your pictures and Bruce your watches are simply amazing, truly a treat to behold.

[bruce wegmann]

A side note... This was more 18K Pulsars than had been seen in one place by anybody since Time Computer closed its' doors in 1977, and yet, this was only HALF of what ultimately surfaced over the next eighteen months. Add another dozen P4s on leather, a dozen ladies' Oval models, a few more P3s, an 18K Euro calculator, and, of course, the Grima watches, and it totals up to 69 pieces, all but five in 18K, the majority of which had never been seen by collectors before (a good example...P4s were previously unknown in 18K; the 16 from New York are still the only ones out there...no additional specimens have come to light in nearly nine years). And, there were five pairs of consecutively serial-numbered watches, one of each model... I still don't know the full story of how (and why) these watches managed to stay together and undisturbed for over 25 years (it's almost brain-numbing to think that these might simply have been the left-overs from a much larger initial order!). I think this was as close to winning the lottery, or finding buried treasure, as I'll ever come. No doubt there are others scattered and hiding...one here, another one or two there, but nothing approaching the sheer volume of this single source. A final watch (model unknown) may still be languishing in a New York safe-deposit box.

wow . not much to say

[Mr Frequency 32768hz]

Best not, your English isn't that good

VERY TRUE MY SPELLINGS TERRIBLE