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Re: Spaceman watches inspired from Space Oddysey and Star Wa

Post18 Dec 2018, 23:35

So, who was the famous Pierre Jaquet Droz (1721–1790)???
Basically he is the father of the first amazingly complicate AUTOMATA/AUTOMATON mechanisms in history:
"Constructed between 1768 and 1774 by Pierre Jaquet-Droz, his son Henri-Louis (1752-1791), and Jean-Frédéric Leschot (1746-1824), the automata include The Writer (made of 6000 pieces), The Musician (2500 pieces), and The Draughtsman (2000 pieces).
His astonishing mechanisms fascinated the kings and emperors of Europe, China, India, and Japan.
Some consider these devices to be the oldest examples of the computer. The Writer, a mechanical boy who writes with a quill pen upon paper with real ink, has an input device to set tabs, defining individual letters written by the boy, that form a programmable memory. It has 40 cams that represent the read-only programme.

The work of Pierre Jaquet-Droz predates that of Charles Babbage by decades. "
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pierre_Jaquet-Droz

Automata by Jaquet-Droz
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S0RnT4JBuEI

And the first mechanical computer :grin1: - Pierre Jaquet Droz the WRITER:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bY_wfKVjuJM
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Re: Spaceman watches inspired from Space Oddysey and Star Wa

Post05 Jan 2019, 23:54

I have discovered that I cannot really delete a previous post of mine :(. This is not OK for me.
I will post it later, when my very rare item will arrive :)
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Re: Spaceman watches inspired from Space Oddysey and Star Wa

Post23 Jan 2019, 14:40

Because the rare item previously mentioned has finally arrived, I will present it below: :mega:
Sorry for my previous message- I've started to present it earlier, but I've changed my mind: I just wanted to be sure that the watch will arrive safely to me, before presenting it. :grin1:

Anyway, by chance I was able to source another ULTRA RARE Space Age Jovial Vision 2000 watch as the one presented earlier in this thread (pls read my previous posts about it ) and also on the famous collector Watchismo's website :-D :
https://watchismo.blogspot.ro/2007/07/1 ... -time.html

Since even today only about 5 Space Age Jovial Vision 2000 watches (prototypes?) were reported in the collectors ring (2 out of 5 such watches being mine :mega: ),I think the we may call them as Watchismo proposed: a true Space Age "vintage holy grails"
... :grin1:

This one is a little different than the other one I have:
- it has a date function, but not a seconds hand :-)
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Be aware that the Basel Fair 1970 advertising also presented a Jovial Vision Watch without a SECONDS hand
Image of Jovial Vision 2000 Advertising from Watchismo's website, https://watchismo.blogspot.com/2007/07/ ... -time.html

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- it has the serial number Patented Model 16.8352, not Patented Model 16.8350 as the previous one I that I own - presented below:
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- it seem to have an original strap, or at least a very similar one with the one advertised on Basel Fair 1970 advert (pls see the above Watchismo's advert):
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Re: Spaceman watches inspired from Space Oddysey and Star Wa

Post24 Jan 2019, 10:37

I don't want to clutter your impeccable amazing story and watches to much...but..

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Re: Spaceman watches inspired from Space Oddysey and Star Wa

Post25 Jan 2019, 12:10

Thanks Kasper for You kind words... :-)
It seems that I was just lucky...and I may agree somewhat :grin1:
Anyway, I want to thank You for all the encouraging messages and Your invaluable feedback,
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Re: Spaceman watches inspired from Space Oddysey and Star Wa

Post29 Jan 2019, 02:20

Please remember that THIS YEAR we celebrate 50 YEARS from the Apollo 9 to Apollo 12 NASA Space missions,
including the successful Apollo 11 FIRST Moon/Lunar Landing on July 20, 1969. :mega:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Apollo_missions
Thus please be prepared for more watch stories, celebrating those outstanding Space Conquest achievements from the late 60's-early 70's, and I am talking about watches from my or other vintage watch collections... :grin1:
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Re: Spaceman watches inspired from Space Oddysey and Star Wa

Post03 Mar 2019, 03:51

Together with other vintage Space Age memorabilia and watches, I have recently acquired also a Medal given to the participants of the 21st International Astronautical Congress (IAC) held in Konstanz, West Germany, 4-9 October 1970:
http://www.iafastro.org/events/iac/past-iacs/
It seems that at this particular IAC Congress, where the famous Apollo 13 crew has participated and for the first time a large delegation of the USSR kosmonauts were also present, there was a room for "No doubt, scientists from all over the world were ready for every cooperation".
But, "Although Soviet cosmonaut Dr. Boris Yegorov and US-astronaut James McDivitt were drinking brotherhood, some differences remained visible." :grin1:
https://www.hq.nasa.gov/alsj/a13/21stAstroCongress.html


An article telling about the USA Astronauts/USSR Kosmonauts meeting in Konstanz, Okt. 1970:
Image from https://www.hq.nasa.gov/alsj/a13/21stAstroCongress.html
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Anyway, it seems that the Medal has some particular things:
There are some errors MADE on the medal PRESENTATION (please see the below photos), e.g.: :mega:
1.On the backside of the medal: The Russian kosmonaut Alexey Leonov has made the first spacewalk in 1965 (18 March 1965) not in 1964, as it is written on the Medal.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexey_Leonov
2. On the front side of the medal:
2.a. Even if it is presented correctly on the Medal the USA Saturn V Rocket - designed by Werner von Braun (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saturn_V), the Russian Rocket on Right side OF the medal has no connection to the real ICBM missile designed by Sergei Korolev to launch in SPACE the USSR missions (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sergei_Korolev). :-D
2.b. BUT the most interesting thing is the rocket presented in the CENTER of the MEDAL's front face , that may be a precursor of the Space Age rockets, but is famous for other things than SPACE AGE and IT IS INTERESTING WHY WEST GERMANS HAS INCLUDED IT IN A 1970 MEDAL CELEBRATING SPACE RACE CONQUESTS!!! :grin1: :grin1:

Thus, for the sake of the debate, can You tell me what EARLIER ROCKET (= before the Space Age :-D ) is presented IN THE CENTER of the below MEDAL's image, a medal issued in West Germany and in 1970 TO CELEBRATE the Space Race/Space Conquest??? :grin1: :grin1: :-D

Front side of the 1970 Astro-Kosmo-Nauten Medal:
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Back side of the 1970 Astro-Kosmo-Nauten Medal:
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Re: Spaceman watches inspired from Space Oddysey and Star Wa

Post10 Mar 2019, 02:12

This is a really rare Spaceman Jump Hour watch. :mega:
A Spaceman Jump Hour/Direct read watch, acknowledged by Doensen as being made in 1977 (and knowing what I know today, I may doubt this a little - at least when I may look at the Catena's Serial Numbers for Spaceman Watches :-D ) : :grin1:
But about these timeline problems in the famous Doensen's book, probably in other posts... :grin1:
https://doensen.home.xs4all.nl/c16.html

Anyway, this watch movement is in a working condition, but the watch it is NOT in a good/excellent shape:
- it is missing the seconds jump hour dial, but I already have a spare part for it. :grin1:
http://www.ranfft.de/cgi-bin/bidfun-db.cgi?10&ranfft&0&2uswk&AS_2082
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- but it has the ORIGINAL brown leather strap, which is quite rare - at least according with my friend Ronny's website - THE ULTIMATE WEB SOURCE REGARDING SPACEMAN WATCHES :mega: :
https://70swatchesgallery.wordpress.com ... jump-hour/


The front face of the watch - with the missing SECONDS dial :-(
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The other side of the watch, showing the VERY RARE ORIGINAL SPACEMAN BROWN LEATHER bracelet :
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Re: Spaceman watches inspired from Space Oddysey and Star Wa

Post11 Apr 2019, 21:54

Today, another rarely seen LCD Space Age/Helmet-like watch, from the very old French based Mougin Piquard watch brand:

Thus, would You believe that the Mougin Piquard brand/factory, basically the French manufacturer of this cca 1977-1979 watch - under my current knowledge, the first ONE reported in the collectors ring, but with a Space Age/Helmet-like design LCD watch and sporting a SWISS ESA 9315 LCD module - have started in Besancon/France in 1852?!!?? :mega:

Practically, the French Mougin factory/brand (started in 1852 + the later Piquard name) has been started for example at the same timeline with the SWISS based Omega Brand (cca 1848), Tissot (cca 1853) and much earlier than Breitling (cca 1884), Rolex (cca 1905) etc etc :eek:

One may read more about the Mougin Piquard history and its main brand ELIX, in this excellent article on the URL below:
http://largevintagewatches.blogspot.com/2016/10/the-history-of-elix-watch-brand.html

And now some photos of my watch:

On my hand, The Mougin Piquard LCD ESA 9315 watch, sporting a rare NOS and vintage (cca 1970) brown Swiss Made rubber strap, somehow similar with the SWISS made TROPIC rubber bracelets:
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The watch caseback:
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Re: Spaceman watches inspired from Space Oddysey and Star Wa

Post22 Apr 2019, 00:29

Because this tread - that included many very rare SPACE AGE RELATED mechanical/automatic and/or Digital/LED/LCD watches - it is very visited, thus counting many visitors, I would like to present to YOU a completely new question about this OCTO watch MISSILEMASTER advertising, an somehow early Atomic Age/Space Age advertising :
This is an early OCTO watch advertising: :-D
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The above presented watches advertising, will present a "Missilemaster" watch that may be an early example of some very special watches - during the Atomic Age/Space Age EARLY time, for example, but not already demonstrated purposes of :grin1: :mega: :
1. The possible watch industry's answer for the Cuban Missile Crisis, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cuban_Missile_Crisis ??? :grin1:
2. The possible watch industry's answer for the Lunar landing, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moon_landing ???? :grin1:
and for many others Atomic Age/Space Age related event(s) etc etc :grin1: :grin1:
??? :-)

But I AM ALREADY VERY CURIOUS about Your personal opinion about such event(s):e.g about WHEN THE FIRST MISSILEMASTER WATCH HAS ARRIVED in the watch market and WHY ??? :grin1:

AND NOW I ALREADY HAVE SOME (early and rare examples) OF THEM!!!
This is an early OCTO MISSILEMATER watch face from my little collection, and please ASK me for details if You want more information: :grin1: :-D
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Thus I kindly ask Your opinion about them, as being relatively unknown to the main collectors of the Atomic Age/Space Age Watch Collectors!!!

THUS - as an extras - PLEASE tell what DO YOU THINK about the MAIN ATOMIC AGE/SPACE AGE event celebrated by such an OCTO "Missilemaster" watch in late 50's and early 60's????
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Re: Spaceman watches inspired from Space Oddysey and Star Wa

Post16 Jul 2019, 17:54

What could be more apropriate to be presented on this topic, in the day of July 16, when - exactly 50 year ago -
the USAs ASTROnauts have departed from Earth in order to land on the Moon on July 20/21, 1969
, than another

Zodiac ASTROdigit LCD watch

added to my small watch collection.
Needless to say that it is also a Helmet-Shaped watch :mega: , even if its CASE is not, at least momentarily, in its best condition/look, but nothing that could not be solved with a visit at my skilled watchmaker :grin1:
But it is working well and it's truly a rare find!

Best regards,
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PS. For those who may wonder, there ARE NOT missing seconds digits on the display! :grin1: The ESA 942711 module could display permanently either the SECONDS OR the DATE, by pressing 3 times the uper right button. Thus, the watch is showing the DATE - July 7 on the display, the date when the photo was taken.
1. The watch itself...
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2. and its Zodiac labeled caseback
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Re: Spaceman watches inspired from Space Oddysey and Star Wa

Post19 Jul 2019, 12:42

Sorry for the blured images, but Photobucket seems that has changed quite recently, WITHOUT any notice for the regular users (and AGAIN in the last 2 years!!! :-( ), its photo "sharing" policy, by allowing shared images for regular users, but only of an already blured by Photobucket "version" of the original picture.

Thus, only three days ago my photobucket shared imaged were like the original, but with a Photobucket's "host.share" watermark; now they are blured BY Photobucket not only watermarked :bang:

So, can You recommend me a free photosharing service, that treat its users more polite? :-(
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Re: Spaceman watches inspired from Space Oddysey and Star Wa

Post20 Jul 2019, 12:19

TODAY we celebrate exactly 50 Years from an outstanding STEP for the humankind:the MOONLANDING! :mega:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_11

Thus, a proper watchstory should be presented here, today. :-D
But it will not be about ERMANO Space Age - Lunarama, Lunastar, Lunamar, Lunalady, Lunasport, Lunatime, Lunavision, Lunatron - watch brands celebrating MOONLANDING and registered in early 70's by Ermano SA, Biel, Schweiz. Even if some of them are presented in some previous posts in this topic.

It will be about the iconic and Ultra Rare Jovial Vision 2000 Space Age watch.

To discuss it, please take a closer look at the 2 images - basically Jovial Vision's early '70s Basel Fair advertising below, taken from Watchismo's website:

Basle Fair advertising: "You may not be able to GO TO THE MOON YET, but You [...] can wear this VISION 2000 watch of OUTER SPACE CONCEPT "
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In conclusion:
1. Its clear that the watch is made to celebrate MOONLANDING, because the watch advertising has indirectly mentioned Moonlanding by the eventual intention of the watch owner to go to the moon as an imposible objectiv YET (1970) - at least for the regular humans other than the astronauts.


2. But what OUTER SPACE CONCEPT SOURCE was the ONE that this prototype's WATCH DESIGNERS have been mentioned here????? :scratch:
2.a. Is it some sort of Space Helmet??? I was not able to find in the SPACE RACE or in SF movies before 1970 such a specific space helmet!!!
:bang:

2b. But please take a closer look at the "silhouette/profile" of the watch, in another closer image taken from Watchismo's website:
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And now rotate it - in you mind 90 degrees left! :-D

The watch PROFILE/SILHOUETTE may look like THE ALIENS HEADS presented in this 1969 artwork presented below, isn't it???
:mega:
Image from https://scribe4haxan.tumblr.com/post/14 ... s-hr-giger
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The ABOVE image is taken from an NOW FAMOUS 1969 album - BIOMECHANOIDS - of NOW a VERY FAMOUS SWISS artist -H.R. GIGER,
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H._R._Giger
and BELOW is another 1973 image from his work:
Image from https://uploads8.wikiart.org/images/h-r ... n-1973.jpg
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Giger is ALSO the author of the famous 1977-1979 ALIEN for the 1979 ALIEN movie!!!!

So, as THE FINAL CONCLUSIONS, the Jovial VISION 2000 WATCH:
1. Was made to celebrate the MOONLANDING, A TASK posible IN 1970 (and also in 2019!!! :scratch: ) ONLY for the astronauts but NOT YET for the regular people :Prost:
2. But the regular people may buy the Jovial VISION 2000 watch, because its CONCEPT it's from OUTER SPACE - in my humble opinion - basically inspired from the well known in Switzerland FANTAStic realism ARTWOrk OF THE SWISS ARTIST H. R. GIGER, as it was published IN HIS ART ALBUM/PORTFOLIO BIOMECHANOIDS in 1969!!! :mega:

https://www.hrgigermuseum.com/index2.php?option=bio&act=l&pg=6&lang=en
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Re: Spaceman watches inspired from Space Oddysey and Star Wa

Post21 Jul 2019, 11:44

PS. As I have mentioned above, SWISS artist H. R. Giger is now even more famous as being the artist behind the ALIEN CHARACTER IN THE FAMOUS MOVIE ALIEN (1979) science fiction horror film directed by Ridley Scott:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alien_(film)
One may read more about the H.R. Gigier Necronom IV, the art that inspired the ALIEN character in the movie, below:
http://alienexplorations.blogspot.com/1 ... om-iv.html
Necronom IV, image from https://1.bp.blogspot.com/
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Alien movies, image from static-bluray.com:
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Re: Spaceman watches inspired from Space Oddysey and Star Wa

Post08 Sep 2019, 15:35

Finally, I have found a rare CARENA (not CATENA!!!) Space Helmet watch presented in the photos below.
The watch has the same module as the 1977 Mondaine Digi Solar watch,
http://www.vintagelcd.com/vul/item/495/
module having a LCD made by Swiss Company Brown Bovery, as one may read in Doensen's book:
https://doensen.home.xs4all.nl/n2.html

Thus may be an educated guess that this specific CARENA watch was made for the Swiss CARENA (NOT CATENA) brand by Swiss Mondaine watchmaking company who provided also the movement/module, in the same manner as for the other CARENA watch sold on catawiki 2 years ago.
Please see the CATAWIKI auction's photos below, including the other Mondaine module/movement for a CARENA QUARTZ (NOT CATENA!!!) watch:
https://auction.catawiki.com/kavels/11772141-carena-swiss-made-digital-vintage-collector-s-wristwatch-1970

And now I think that I have the answers for two BIG questions (answers that will be presented eventually in a later post):
1.Who made the FAMOUS CARENA (NOT CATENA!!!) branded SPACESONIC watch and for whom if not for the CATENA brand?
Image from Adam's excellent http://www.digital-watch.com website:
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2. Who owned the CARENA (NOT CATENA!!!) watch brand if it was a SEPARATE brand, as it seems to be?



And now some photos of my recently arrived SPACE HELMET CARENA:
1. The 1977 Mondaine/Brown Bovery LCD movement first screen
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2. The second screen including the date/month display, specific to that Mondaine/Brown Bovery
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Post12 Sep 2019, 21:50

An now some answers at the BIG questions presented above:
1. First, Who owned the CARENA (NOT CATENA!!!) QUARTZ watch brand if it was a SEPARATE brand, as it seems to be?

It was not easy to find, but I had the impression that I saw somewhere else that specific CARENA brand, written with the same fonts and in the same manner! :grin1:
Thus, please see the photos below, and please look at brand name and design of that CARENA letters:
Did You see the similarities between brand letters and the font used???
:mega:
1.a Carena SX 300 camera
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1.b. Famous CARENA Spacesonic, image from Adam's website and mentioned before:

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The CARENA camera brand was another large range of cameras branded carena sold by Porst and Interdiscount.
As one may read at https://camerapedia.fandom.com/wiki/Porst,
" Photo Porst was a German distributor and retailer of many brands of cameras. It was founded in 1919 by Hans Porst in Nuremberg, Germany. For many years Porst bought cameras from other manufacturers, among them Adox, Agfa, Balda, Braun, Dacora, and Franka, and rebadged them. In the early years, it used the Hapo brand, an acronym of Hans Porst, from the 1930s to the end of the 1950s. Later on, the house brand cameras appeared under the PORST name, e.g. PORST compact reflex or PORST 135 BS.

The Carena brand arrived in 1960 as the name of a movie camera made for Porst by Büro-und Rechenmaschinenfabik in Liechtenstein. It came to be used more widely by Porst as an brand name for a variety of cameras.
The Carena brand was sold to the Swiss company Interdiscount in the 1970‘s for use by it‘s own camera retail business."


And Interdiscount was and still is one of the MARKET LEADERS for home electronics in Switzerland.
https://www.tgw-group.com/en/news-press/press-releases/interdiscount-opens-fully-automated-warehouse

Thus the educated guess is that CARENA (QUARTZ) watch brand was a short lived electronic watch brand owned by Interdiscount - the SWISS major home electronics seller.
Basically they tried to sell in late 70's (cca 1976-1979) SWISS MADE electronic (LCD) watches with high quality SWISS modules/movement provided by Mondaine, Catena etc, brands that - most probably - produced also the entire line of CARENA QUARTZ watches for INTERDISCOUNT.
:grin1:

2.THUS, the Famous CARENA (not CATENA!!!) labeled SPACESONIC watches were most probably produced for the SWISS Interdiscount's CARENA watch brand, by the SWISS CATENA watch factory, using SWISS MADE ESA modules 9315, 942711 etc :mega:
Of course, those Spacesonics labeled CATENA (NOT CARENA!) was produced also by Catena, who owned the design rights for the entire Le Marquand SPACEMAN/SPACESONIC line, no matter what watch brands were written on the dial: Fortis, Zeno, Tressa, Omax etc etc!
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